Android TV sticks: Which is best? Which runs best? XBMC?

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  1. ATAB

    ATAB Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The market for little TV Android sticks seem to be on the rise. The sticks are little Android mini pcc - fitting most of the time in a somewhat larger USB stick format. But instead of sticking them into a USB port, they can be 'sticked' into the HDMI port of modern TV - turning it into a 'smart TV'.
    WLAN is on board and you can surf the web, watch pictures or movies, run apps on the large TV screen and so on...
    At least that is what they promise.

    Pricing ranges from $60 - $100 - latest ones running Android 4.0.X and above.

    • MK802
      CPU: Allwinner A10 (ARM) Single Core 1GHz Cortex-A8

      Ram: 512 MB DDR3 Ram
      Mem: 4 GB
    • MK802+
      CPU: Allwinner A10 (ARM) Single Core 1GHz Cortex-A8
      Ram: 1024 MB DDR3 Ram
      Mem: 4 GB
    • MK802 II
      CPU: Allwinner A10 (ARM) Single Core 1GHz Cortex-A8
      Ram: 1024 MB DDR3 RAM
      Mem: 4GB
    • UG802
      CPU: 1.2 Ghz DUAL CORE (RK3066?)
      Ram: 1024 MB DDR3
      Mem: 4GB
      Video01
    • MK808
      CPU: Rockchip RK3066 DUAL CORE, CORTEX-A9 (1,2 - 1,6Ghz?)
      Ram: 1024 MB DDR3
      Men: 8 GB
      According to here - possibly the 1st RK3066 device to run Linux
      OS: Android 4.1Video01Interesting read about the MK808
    • HI808 (new)CPU: Freescale i.MX6Q Quad Core Cortex A9 Processor w/ Vivante GC2000 GPU 1,2 Ghz?Ram: 1024 MB DDR3
      Mem: ? GB
      OS: Android 4.0?
    • Droid Stick A2 (not yet available)CPU: 1.5 GHz Amlogic 8726-MX ARM Cortex-A9 dual core CPU with Mail400MP2Ram: 1024 MB DDR3
      Mem: 4-8 GB GBBuilt in IR receiver?
      Full XBMX ready? OS: Android 4.0? Source1
    Sources: A brief overview (German site) etc.

    Here is a link that shows computing performance (which is not everything here) for some of the listed devices in posting @tabletrepublic.com:
    performance of TV Sticks

    A google spreadsheet listing some of the devices:
    google spread sheet

    Update: Over here someone tries to compile a list of Android sticks as well
    http://liliputing.com/2013/04/want-to-help-create-a-database-of-android-tv-sticks.html
    http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/usb-stick-dongle-mini-computer

    Some talk here in the forum about the Android min pc

    Does anyone have own experience with such devices?
    I am particular interested in the latest ones with dual cores (MK808, UG802 - both with RK3066) as they promised a jump in performance etc.?

    Anyone lucky to run XBMC on them properly?
    What is the outlook?

    What is the best full screen movie player?

    Thanks
  2. urulu

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    I've been very interested in one of these as well.
    Found this thread over at SlickDeals http://slickdeals.net/f/5130124-Dual-Core-Android-on-a-stick-UG802-Rockchip-3066-Android-4-0-4-1-2GHz-Cortex-A9-Quad-Core-GPU-1GB-RAM-4G-ROM-MK802-with-a-dual-core-69-99-shipped-In4dealz?, not to sure about the seller, but some good product info.

    Posters "Evo-IC", "deadhp1", "CHRISB2019" seem to know what they're talking about.
    It's a lengthy thread, but here are some handpicked posts that might help you.
    Comments# 42, 53, 72, 109, 112, 114, 120, 153.

    Also, Evo owned the mk802, and upgraded to the ug802.
    Here's his video

    Hope this helps
    All credit goes to Evo, dead, + Chris at Slick
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    But for the same money you get a 7" tablet which you can use the same way.
    I don't see any advantage in removing the screen, because even if you don't use
    it for output, it still can be used as an input device.
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    ATAB Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Good point but : How do you hook up a tablet to a TV set?
    I know about HDMi but then you have a cables (HDMI and maybe power) again...between the TV set and your tablet which might ..depending on the situation...(you don't sit in right in front of large 37"+ screen really).. become quite uncomfortable.
    And the 'TV stick' is there to stay..a tablet again might be taken away etc. b/c it is a mobile device etc. ...
    A 'TV stick' again is stationary and might serve other purposes as well..besides smarting up the TV... ;-)

    Nevertheless are you aware of a tablet in that price range..that can run XBMC on a TV set w/o probs?

    Thanks
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    Thanks for pointing this out to me .. I will read it thoroughly...
    Do you own one yet?
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    I'm not familiar with such sticks, I only have seen this offer:

    http://www.efox-shop.com/versandfre...-box-android4-0-allwinnera10-1gb-4gb-p-268756
    h_t_t_p://www.efox-shop.com/versandfrei-aus-de-android-tv-mk802-google-tv-box-android4-0-allwinnera10-1gb-4gb-p-268756

    and was wondering, why somebody would like to buy such a thing. You
    need also a power supply, and HDMI cable to connect it with the TV but
    you have no built-in input device. So there seems no advantage to
    a 7" tablet (beside the size), only disadvantages.
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    Point taken...input device needs to be supplied ...that could be regular USB keyboard and mouse or devices like these here:

    iPazzPort 2.4GHz Mini Fly Air Mouse and the like

    Of course you need connect it to the TV and depending on the device also the power. But as I said it is meant there to stay, so you do it once and not every time.
    At the same time the devices are so small..ideally they can be tucked e.g. behind the TV...and so on...
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    Sorry, I don't own one yet, but thinking about pulling the trigger.

    My reasoning is exactly like yours, but only for my Mother. She loves when i hook up the N70 to show her some YouTube, Local news videos, shopping websites on her 42" TV. She doesn't want, or need a tablet. She just needs a cheap internet device that streams and works. I have a spare keyboard + mouse, and she has free wi-fi available.

    I've just been dragging my feet, because I just want to plug it in the HDMI and have it work.
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    If you proceed...let me know - how it goes and if your mothers likes and uses it...
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    Not a problem, I think I will order one this next week. I'll test it ASAP, and leave a heads up.
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    Great, love to hear for what device do you finally go for...and where you buy it...
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    Well, I gladly add this to starting post...
    But in what regard would they have made this thread obsolete? O really helped me with my question? ;-)
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    Well, in forums like these, you usually don't make multiple threads regarding the same subject. Nothing too serious but your first post could have been posted in the existing thread, no? Everybody just wants to keep the forum clean ;)

    Regarding the topic:

    I will probably buy one of these in the near future when I hear more about Netflix in Finland. If it's priced reasonably and it offers similar services than the US one, I will definitely buy an Android Mini PC for my TV.

    As for MK802 II, MK808 or UG802, I don't know yet, but I'll investigate more when I know about the Netflix. Anyway these are very interesting products and considering the price, a painless way to smarten up your TV!
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    Although I admit I have not seen your thread, I still see all reasons to open this thread. You were talking about Android MINi PCs and here it's for one totally geared towards 'TV sticks' - slightly different less technical focus I think and secondly here am I asking about experiences uses have made...and why chose over the another... and so on...

    If the forum should stay clean (as it never will or can), how about creating a sub forum then?
    What do you think?

    Thanks
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    I've Got a Sample of MK802+ and its pretty good..
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    I see that the idea was picked up to create a subsection for TV sticks. ;-) !
    I guess we should move this thread there then!?
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    Moved thread :)