Mediatek MT6595 / MTK6595 out now HMP 4x A17 & 4xA7 w/ PowerVR™ Rogue Series 6200

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    MT6595: An A17 octa core from Mediatek coming this year Q3/Q4- big.LITTLE architecture combining A7 + A17 cores
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    Read also here
    "...
    The world’s first octa-core 4G LTE smartphone chip with the new ARM Cortex-17 processor
    Designed for the ‘super-mid’ market, MediaTek MT6595 is based on the ARM® ‘big.LITTLE’ architecture, with four high-performance Cortex®-A17 and four energy efficient Cortex-A7 processors. Mediatek CorePilot™ heterogeneous multiprocessing technology unlocks the full power of all eight processors for outstanding performance with ultra-low power consumption.

    Release 9, Category 4 dual-mode LTE provides worldwide 4G-network compatibility and MT6595 also features a 2560 x 1600 (WQXGA) display controller and a 20-megapixel image signal-processor for high-quality smartphone digital camera applications. Comprehensive wireless connectivity includes with 802.11ac Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0 LE and multi-system GNSS, and ANT+ for ultra-lower power wireless fitness-tracking devices.

    • 4x ARM Cortex-A17 processors & 4x ARM Cortex-A7 processors
    • Imagination Technologies PowerVR™ Series6200 GPU
    • Rel. 9, Cat. 4 LTE (FDD & TDD), DC-HSPA+, TD-SCDMA, EDGE
    • 802.11ac, Bluetooth LE, multi-GNSS (GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, Galileo & QZSS), ANT+
    • WQXGA (2560 x 1600) display controller
    • 20MP image signal-processor
    • H.265 Ultra HD video record & playback ['What exactly is 'Ultra HD video' !?]
    • MediaTek multi-mode wireless charging support

    ...."
    http://www.mediatek.com/en/products/mobile-communications/mobile-chipsets/smartphone/mt6595/


    http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/04/25/mediatek-mt6595-chipset-sales-is-increase/

    Not sure if that applies here - but it gives an impression of the power consumption of A7 and A17 ...

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    Some info where Medaitek is comming from. Their mother company UMC was once very visible the PC chipset market way back.




    Mediatek gets more open..somewhat
    http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mediatek-taking-steps-to-be-more-open/

    Really?

    ATAB


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    Here is some who compiled a pile of info on this particular chip. He also digged some infos up that you usually don't see. If there are all true..well that..needs to be seen.
    Look over there http://roedi7.blogspot.de/p/mt6592.html
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    MT6595


    • CPU:
      • 4x ARM Cortex-A17™ + 4x Cortex-A7™ CPUs
        • ASP (average selling price) 30 USD
        • ARM big.LITTLE™ architecture
        • 28 nm manufactured, 32Bit architecture
        • HKMG high-κ dielectric metal gate
          • next gen manufactured mode
        • A17 > 2MB L2 cache and A7 > 512KB L2 cache
        • 32 KB L1 I-cahe and 32 KB L1 D-cache
        • DVFS tech with adaptive voltage from 0.8V to 1.15V
        • NEON multimedia processing engine with SIMDv2 / VPPv4 ISA support
        • MT6595T
          • 4x A17 = 2.5 GHz
          • 4x A7 = 2.0 GHz
          • AnTuTu = 59.000 ? ( 1920 x 1152 )
          • AnTuTu = 52.000 ? ( 2560 x 1440 = QHD )
        • MT6595
          • 4x A17 = 2.2 GHz
          • 4x A7 = 1.7 GHz
          • AnTuTu = 52.000 ! ( 1920 x 1152 )
          • AnTuTu = 47.000 ! ( 2560 x 1440 = QHD )
        • MT6595M
          • 4x A17 = 2.0 GHz
          • 4x A7 = 1.5 GHz
          • AnTuTu = 44.000 ? ( 1920 x 1080 )
      • NOTE:
        • Buy ONLY MT6595 That scores those above !!!!!!
        • Lower scores means that MT6595 has been Crippled by many % !!!!!!
        • The MT6595 first revisions are based on A15 and NOT A17
        • Again if the SCORE is NOT MATCHED as ABOVE THEN DO NOT BUY that device as it is NOT GENUINE !!!!!!
    • GPU:
      • PowerVR™ Rogue Series 6200
        • 2 Cores / 2 Clusters
        • Freq:
          • 650 mhz for MT6595T
          • 600 mhz for MT6595
          • 450 mhz for MT6595M
        • DirectX10.0 + EGL 3.1 + OpenGL 3.2 + OpenVG 1.1
        • OpenCL 1.2
          • NOTE: in order for OpenCL to work must have these libsliboclcompiler.so, libPVROCL.so andOpenCL.so
          • since OpenCL on Android is NOT Official, then it wont work, so expect the files above to be missing......
        • Renderscript + Filterscript
        • Texture compression:
          • ETC, ETC2, PVRTC, PVRTC2, DXTn
        • 28 nm
        • 128 Bit bus width
        • 32 Simd lane
        • GFLOPS:
          • FP32 = 76.8
          • FP16 = 115.2
        • Fillrate:
          • 2.4 G/s Pixels
          • 2.4 G/s Texels
      • NOTE:
        • GPU 6200 is a crap GPU !!!!!!
        • expect more powerful GPU on 2015 with MALI !!!!!!
        • next MT6595T + MALI will score 64.000 on AnTuTu
    • Multimedia:
      • H.265 / HEVC Ultra HD (4K2K)video encode & decode at 30 fps
        • 4K = 3840 x 2160 > 2160p
        • 2K = 2560 x 1440 > 1440p
        • low-power hardware support
      • H.264 & VP9 Ultra HD video encode & decode at 60 fps
      • 20MP camera capability
      • WQXGA (2560 x 1600) High-Definition display controller
      • FM Radio with RDS
      • TV/OUT via MHL 2.0 with 7.1 channel for MHL output
      • 120Hz mobile display with Response Time Enhancement Technology
      • 480fps 1080p Full HD Super-Slow Motion video feature
      • HW JPEG encoder: Baseline encoding with 300M pixel/sec
      • NOTE:
        • With MT6595 the Videos will be recording in standard H.265
        • Now even Intel Broadwell won't support this in HW as it will run in Hybrid mode
        • For now H.265 is NOT so supported as it will take some more time for it to HW & SW apps to appear
    • Connectivity:
      • USB 3.0 Super Speed
      • USB 2.0 (high speed dual mode supporting)
      • eMMC 5.0 up to 400MB/s
      • OTG
      • NFC
      • 4 UARTs for external devices and debugging interfaces
      • SPI master for external devices
      • I2S master output and master/slave input for connection with optional external hi-end audio codec
      • GPIOs
      • 4 sets of memory card controller supporting
        SD/SDHC/MS/MSPRO/MMC and SDIO2.0/3.0 protocols
    • RAM:
      • Up to 4GB Dual Channel LP-DDR3 Memory at 933MHz
      • 32-bit dual-channel, 14.9 GB/sec
        • self-refresh/partial self-refresh mode
        • low-power operation
        • supports dual rank memory device
        • programmable slew rate for memory controller's IO pads
        • advanced bandwidth arbitration control
    • MODEM:
      • 4G LTE Multi-Mode Modem Rel. 9, Category 4 FDD with data rates up to 150Mbits/s downlink and 50Mbits/s uplink
      • TDD LTE 61Mbits/s downlink and 18Mbits/s uplink in 20 MHz
      • 1.4 t0 20 MHz RF bandwith
      • DC-HSDPA+ (42Mbits/s), WCDMA, TD-SCDMA, GSM FDD/TDD-LTE, CMCC 3G, CMCC 4G, 4G-LTE, TD-LTE and EDGE, GPRS Class 12 for legacy 2G/3G networks
      • 30+ 3GPP RF bands support to meet operator needs worldwide
      • ARM Cortex-R4 800 MHz processor , DSP, and 2G and 3G coprocessors
        • 64KB I-cache, 64KB D-cache
        • 512KB TCM (tightly-copled memory)
        • Coresonic DSP for running LTE modem tasks, with maximum 300MHz
        • FD216 DSP for running modem/voice tasks, with maximum 250MHz
        • High-performance AXI and AHB bus
        • General DMA engine and dedicated DMA channels for peripheral data transfer
        • Watchdog timer for system error gating recovery
        • Power management for clock gating control
        • 2 x 2 downlink SU-MIMO; 4 x 2downlink SU-MIMO
        • SNOW3G/ZUC cipher offload engine
        • IPv6, QoS
    • GPS:
      • Integrated:
        • GPS - Global Positioning System USA
        • Galileo - European Space Agency (ESA)
        • GLONASS - Russian Federal Space Agency
        • Beidou - Chinese satellite navigation system
        • QZSS - Japan Quasi-Zenith Satellite System
      • Multi-GNSS positioning systems
        • improving accuracy, reliability, and availability
      • tri-band GPS
      • A-GPS with EPO Assistance, QuickGPS, Geotagging
    • WiFi:
      • dual-band 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
      • advanced Wi-Fi Direct and Miracast support
      • 5 GHz
      • 500 Mbit/s
      • IEEE 802.11ac ( becomes standard in/from 2015 )
        • Mobile applications now demand more bandwidth
          • H.265 Stream
          • Video and voice applications have increased the demand for pervasive bandwidth…everywhere
        • Wider channel support
          • 802.11ac mandates support of 80MHz wide channels with optional 160MHz wide channels to achieve higher data rates than are achieved with 802.11n
          • Channel Width
            # Spatial Streams20 MHz40 MHz80 MHz160 MHz
            186 Mbps200 Mbps433 Mbps866 Mbps
            2173 Mbps400 Mbps866 Mbps1.73 Gbps
            3288.9 Mbps600 Mbps1.3 Gbps2.34 Gbps
            4346.7 Mbps800 Mbps1.73 Gbps3.46 Gbps
        • Denser amplitude modulation
          • 256-QAM - four times denser than 802.11n further increasing the bit rate density achieved by 802.11ac
        • More spatial streams
          • up to eight spatial streams, further increasing the data rate for each radio.
        • Beamforming to fortify RF connections
          • increases reliability of the AP/client link
        • Multi-user MIMO
          • supports simultaneous transmissions to multiple clients and maximizes RF band utilization. Up to four distinct clients can receive data simultaneously from a single AP at full channel data rate
    • Bluetooth:
      • 4.1
      • 100 m maxrange
      • 1 Mbit/s Over the air data rate
      • Bluetooth LE and ANT+
        • This allows for it to be used for general fitness tasks, medical and remote control functions, interoperable collection and transfer of sensor data as well as the integration of remote control systems such as indoor lighting, phone control, etc. Several main focuses of operation include sport,wellness, home care and remote control. It can be used for data-transfer for a number of devices:
    • Audio:
      • 24-bit 192 kHz Hi-Fi HQ audio codec
      • 110dB SNR head phone (DAC) digital-to-analogue converter
      • audio post-processing tech:
        • BesLoudness (MB-DRC)
        • Android built-in post processing
      • Audio encode: AMR-NB, AMR-WB, AAC, OGG, ADPCM
        Audio decode: WAV, MP3, MP2, AAC, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, MIDI, Vorbis, APE, AAC-plus v1/v2, FLAC, WMA, ADPCM
      • 4-band IIR compensation filter to enhance loudspeaker responses
      • Interfaces: I2S, PCM
      • Voice wakeup
      • polyphonic ringtones
    • Speech:
      • Codec (FR, HR, EFR, AMR FR, AMR HR and Wide-band AMR)
      • CTM
      • Noise reduction, suppression & cancellation
      • Dual-MIC noise cancelattion
      • Echo cancelattion & surppression
      • MULTI-MIC input (up to 4 MIC's)
      • Handset mode ANC (active noise reduction)
      • Multi-MIC noise cancelattion, voice tracking,
        sound recording w/t Wind Noise Rejection
    • Operating conditions:
      • core voltage: 1.0V
      • processor DVFS+SRAM voltage: 0.8~1.15V
        (typ. 1.0V; sleep mode 0.7V)
      • I/O voltage: 1.8V/2.8V/3.3V
      • Memory: 1.2V
      • LCM interface: 1.8V
      • Clock source: 26-MHz, 32.768-Khz
    • Features:
      • ARM TrustZone
      • MediaTek ClearMotion™ technology eliminates motion jitter and ensures smooth video playback at 60fps on mobile devices
      • MediaTek MiraVision™ technology for DTV-grade picture quality
      • MediaTek CorePilot™ heterogeneous multiprocessing technology which unlocks the full power of all eight processors for outstanding performance with ultra-low power consumption
      • MediaTek Multi-mode wireless battery charging supported by MediaTek’scompanion multi-mode wireless power receiver IC
      • Enables Over 600PPi on a 5-inch display
      • SDCARD Slot
        • NOTE: for sdcard is recommended an class 10 sdcard
          • an class 10 with minimum 25 mb/s read/write is good
        • lower class than class 10 it will Lag the Device !!!!!!
      • dual sim support with Unlocked Service Provider
    • VIDEO:
      • Decoder:
        • HEVC 4k2k @ 30fps
        • VP9 1080p @ 30fps (SW)
        • H.264 Baseline 4k2k @ 30fps/40MBps
        • H.264 Main/High profile 4k2k @ 30fps/40MBps
        • H.263 Sorenson 1080p @ 60fps/40MBps
        • MPEG-4 SP/ASP 1080p @ 60fps/40MBps
        • DIVX4/DIVX5/DIVX6/DIVX HD/XVID 1080p@60fps/40MBps
        • VP8 1080p @ 60fps/6MBps
        • VC-1 1080p @ 60fps/20MBps
      • Encoder:
        • MPEG-4 Simple profile 1080p @ 03fps (SW)
        • H.263 1080p @ 30fps (SW)
        • H.264 High profile 1080p @ 60fps
        • H.265/HEVC Main profile 4k2k @ 30fps
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    Source: http://roedi7.blogspot.de/p/mt6592.html

    Some interestings bits like voltages and such. Great.


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    Let's see how the phones will be ... regardless of the benchmark glory.
    But I really what to love to see them in a tablet - like the iFive MIni 3GS.. ;-)!

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    Well, I really hope that they change for the better... although they are not making the most powerful SoC yet... they have the potential..and they might already offer the most bank for the buck anyway.
    If they succeed and benefit from it...others might have to follow suit.

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    SoC MT6595 w/ board costs around $30 !?

    Really!?
    Can anyone confirm?

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    I can confirm that is typical pricing for a new mediatek SoC.
     
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    Atab great scoop on this article. I am breaking out my markdown editor now to give you the lowdown on my plans. Especially interesting to hear about all of the iot applications in this silicon, had heard about the rest a while back. Please contact me if you want to lend a hand with some webdev stuff, that is what I am up to this weekend..... Hopefully then I will have a link to give you :).
     
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    ATAB would you be interested in a Dev board with that silicon? Others like yourself? Asking now because curious later because may make/find/acquire one..... It would not be $30 though.... More like $100-150, I imagine. $30 is probably the cost of paying for an ODM's PCBa, not the cost of a Dev board with ports and the like... Please give me a list of things to look out for or make exist, I am happy to oblige....
     
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    Is that really the cost of the PCB circuit board + SoC (and of course we talk manufacture's cost prices in lots of thousands - not retail or dev boards) !?
    Any idea how MT6595 SoC contributes to the cost? How much is being payed for this SoCs?
    How does it compare e.g. MT6592 or RK3288 !?

    Usually we read not much at all about the pricing - the only things I heard is something that Intel charges as little as $5 for SoC and that a RK3288 was more like $40...

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    Perfectly - I guess nobody can expect a board for $30 - which is just the cost of the hardware (maybe not even the complete set up!??) but with no software et.c provided.
    If such a board comes in around $100-150 and leaves a better impression than the A80 Optimus board + (and as if not more important) there is usually software stack, enough I/O and even some Linux support - such a board can be sold - I believe.

    But being a Mediatek based solution - despite all good intentions - I guess it might be really hard to achieve - but I do not understand enough of the situation and the possibilities.

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    Personally for me too much Specs, haha ! Would take Days to compare them all.

    This Time my personal Fav. are:

    For Phones :
    Snapdragon 801 --> my ONEPLUS ONE ... haha
    MTK 6595 8 Core
    MTK 6592 8 Core
    Intel Z2580 Atom (only Dual Core but Powerful like MTK6592 ! )
    MTK 6582 4 Core
    and then the older ones... MT6589 MT6589T 4 Core

    For Tablets:
    Allwinner A80T --> up to 58000 Antutu 8 Core
    RK3288 --> up to 43000 Antutu 4 Core
    MT8392 --> up to 42000 Antutu 8 Core
    Intel Z3735D --> 30000 Antutu, but the only real 64 Bit SoC I know...
    But Note, Rockchip RK3188 and Allwinner A31S also enough for a good Tablet.

    For TV Stick:
    RK3288 coming now...
    Amlogic M802 for great 1080p

    And only for Benchmark A80T seems to kick them all this Time.
    This Time I´m really happy with my Oneplus ONE, no need for a Tablet, but if I would decide to buy a Tablet this Time, it would be
    Onda V989 A80T or Cube Talk 9X U65GT !!! Depending on 3G need or not.
    Personally I think a Device needs more then 20000 Antutu, then it should run without lags, sure this is also depending on the Firmware.

    For me the GREAT Thing is, I told my Friends over Years, Chinese SoC will come and they will Hit the German Market and now...
    ACER, ASUS, and more Named Brands use Mediatek MT83xx and MT81xx Series for their Tablets here in Germany.
    I think the Prices are too high here, but they wanna make Money.

    After my Dead Samsung S3 some Years ago and the bad Support from Samsung, this Brand is dead for me !!!!!
    Also my TV has some really bad Firmware Bugs, after 4 Updates now it did not turn on itself over Night... F***ing SAMSUNG LED TV !

    So lets watch the Market and we´ll see what comes. Personally I miss a A80T TV Stick or Box this Time, with Antutu about 57000 or something
    this could be a great Gaming Device for Users !
     
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    Oh, sorry Jacob, forgot to say....

    I´m not interested in a Dev Board, more intersting is a TV Box with A80T comes with Android 4.4 or flashable Xubuntu and Ubuntu Images...
    2 or 4 GB of RAM and 16GB Flash expandable with microSD and really important a good WiFi Chipset and Antenna and a Ethernet Port !
    :D
    I´m not the Firmware or Software Guy, only can flash and install Linux and Android... hahaha
     
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    Small addition - I really want to see the MT6595 in tablet.. for affordable 3G and high res.screens...

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    I think they will mostly do mt83xx for tablets also with 3g and retina resolution. I have not yet compared the mt83xx with mt65xx...

    Gesendet von meinem Oneplus One mit Tapatalk Pro
     
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    Yes ..that's the idea. But if you look at iFive 3GS Mini for example...it features a 'phone' SoC - MT6592 - despite that it has 'tablet' sibling in MT8392.
    I believe they are the same silicon - running maybe at different speeds/parameters - and probably have different price points. But the cores and the potential features are the same afaik.

    So there might be a MT8395 in some time - if you follow the same nomenclature.

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    I'd hazard to guess that there will certainly be an MT8395, and that I'll dutifully purchase whatever CUBE tablet is based on it. *Praying for non-neutered software*.....

    About pricing, you'd like to know the license fee on the SoC as in exactly how much mediatek/realtek/Intel/Allwinner/AMLogic/Actions gets on each unit? I can try and find out. For a *new* chipset platform, though, $30/pcba doesn't sound at all ridiculous. Intel is subsidizing the heck out of their platform at the moment, so $5/ea doesn't sound crazy to me either.

    I am very interested in the upcoming Intel/Rockchip project. I have some faith in Intel here-- it is my hope that their Open standards will drive the adoption of open platforms here. These days, open source is still a "dirty" concept here in Shenzhen. Resistance to the idea of open hardware has most certainly slowed my project down. A notable win, however, has been the Firefly from T-Chip. (Firefly-3288) They are going with a marketing strategy based on Open Software/Hardware and certainly have an interest in community engagement. I think that there is some resistance to this at the top levels of the company, but I also think that this will change over time once they see the sales that come from a 100% open source release. I'd point you to the web site, but the English version is not yet up.
     
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    Just a little bit of info on pricing. Okay, time to make my "How a Tablet gets made in Shenzhen Map." Here is a link to it on Google Docs-- if you're on now, you should be able to watch me build it and chat with me while I am doing that.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2014
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